Committee Meetings

Updated 3 June 2024

Committee Meetings

posted 8 February 2024
Plumbing Committee New Plumbing Committee At the January 4th, HOA Meeting, the Architectural Committee was tasked to create a sub committee specifically for plumbing issues at Harbour Vista. The committee was tasked to make inspections and provide recommendations. Subsequently, a meeting was held on January 16th for the committee’s creation with volunteer members defining its responsibilities and preliminary schedules. January 16 Meeting The first meeting of the newly formed Plumbing committee was a majority discussion of the lukewarm water issues, previous history and findings. A discussion was held in how inspections would be made.. Blackbeard Inspection The committee scheduled an inspection of the Blackbeard Buildings (16512 and 16542) for Saturday, February 17, 2024 from approximately 10 am to 1 pm. The Committee requested that PCM inform the owners/residents in these two buildings about this inspection. Owner/residents need to make arrangements for someone be there to let the team into the unit. The inspection team will consist of 4 people. Purpose of Inspection Though for the last five years, the HOA has been informing the membership, that the old original “Mixet” shower valves must be replaced. This is because the “Mixet” valves can create cross overs that produce lukewarm water issues in the plumbing system. This cross over is not only for the unit but for the surrounding neighbors which share common plumbing. Because each unit’s plumbing is connected with the other units above, below, and side to side, cross-over in any of these valves may affect both the unit itself as well as neighboring units. Even if a unit is not experiencing lukewarm water, an old valve may create lukewarm water for a neighbor. The inspectors will check for any of these valves. Other Issues "Mixet” valves should be replaced with “Pressure Balanced” valves, but even “Pressure Balanced” valves have issues. Their cartridges may be failing and need to be replaced. A failed "Pressure Balanced" valve can also produce a cross over, which will be noted by the team. This inspection will also look to identify “bangs” or “thuds” from the valves. ■

posted 12 July 2023
Land Lease Committee April Status Land Lease Committee Report June 29, 2023 This is a summary of the status from Land Lease Committee meeting held June 29, 2023 Attorney Patrick Munoz stated that he reviewed all the documents that the Board provided, including leases, subleases, amendment to subleases, emails and prior letters. He further stated that the bottom line is that there is no silver bullet that they were able to find that would give the HOA any meaningful leverage in a negotiation. History In 2022, the land lease holder, through his attorney, basically tells us he is not interested in talking to us anymore. Basically he is saying the HOA is not realistic. Whether that is true or not, it is his view of the world. What Do We Do Now? That leads us back to what do we do now? Attorney Munoz laid out two options, which are not necessarily exclusive; we can do both. Option 1 Related to the idea that the HOA wanted to purchase the lease from him and what the HOA thinks the value is, we can approach him again and ask if there is something he is interested in. Is there a starting point we are not aware of? Mr. Dickey said our proposal was not realistic, so what does he think is realistic? Option 2 If land lease holder is not interested in a purchase, then option 2: is there something we can talk about so that the sub lease runs concurrent with the lease? Is there a number we can talk about that relates to that? Both NO If the answer to both of those is NO the other option would be to try some sort of litigation. This is not a great option as there is nothing in the documents that says there is a good argument. Something along the lines of people were led to believe that negotiations would happen in good faith. Our changes of winning are slim and we may end paying for all legal fees. Recommendation Patrick Munoz recommends a strategy where we start with reaching out and seeing if we can bring him to the table and talk to us. We have to find out what his starting point is. Conclusion I know that everybody is anxious about this. We cannot force him to negotiate. We reach out, find a starting point. If he is unwilling to negotiate, think about some form of litigation. If the HOA wants to consider that, does it make sense to build a litigation fund? Next meeting is scheduled for July 19th, where the attorney will report on the result of him reaching out to the attorney for Harbour Vista LLC. For any question about the Land Lease or its status, contact the Land Lease Committee at: [email protected]

posted 27 December 2022
Lukewarm Water Not Giving Up (Part 2) On December 21, 2022, a technician from Southern California Gas Company arrived to replace the gas meter and update the gas line for the 16521 Grunion Boiler. Board and architectural committee members present had thought they would start the work at once, however he was there to survey as to what preparations were required, and left before noon. That same day plumbing company Elite Leak Detection was scheduled to come in at 1:30 to perform thermal imaging on several units in the 4831 and 4791 Lago buildings and the 16521 Grunion and 16551 N. Grunion buildings for lukewarm water issues. The actual inspection did not start till 3 pm, and therefore only an abbreviated evaluation was performed on the Lago Buildings. Inspections on the Grunion buildings were deferred. The Elite Leak plumber was able to verify some crossover issues that we had previously identified, and also concluded that there is a boiler demand that is not being met. This is the same conclusion that the Southern California Gas company had arrived at, which is why they recommended the gas meter upgrade. Grunion Boiler Impact Emergency notices had been posted on thirty Grunion unit doors stating there would be an emergency hot water interruption while Southern California Gas updated the gas line to the 16521 Boiler. HOA members working on this effort thought the upgrade would happen on December 21, however it was not to be. Even though the Gas Company was on site at 8 pm on that day, the technician left soon after and later reported they had trouble locating the underground gas line. The next day a crew came in who after much digging, found the gas line and installed a new, larger gas line. As of this writing, this line and its associated meter has not connect to the boiler. Plumber Specialist The thermo-imaging plumbing service was originally schedule to meet with the Architectural Committee on December 14th. But because of a emergency leak, this was rescheduled to December 21 at 1:30pm with Architectural Chair Michael Barto and HOA Treasurer Chat Tran. Unfortunately, Elite Leak Detection plumbers did not arrive until 3 pm. After a briefing, it was decided that there was only enough time to evaluate the 4791 and 4831 Lago buildings with Grunion inspection to be rescheduled. Using an infrared camera system, Elite Leak Detection inspected two stacks consisting of four individual units which had been previously identified with crossover (See December Crossover Investigation). They also inspected the outside cold water shutoff valves where they found two that need to be serviced. Hot Water Returned Lukewarm water issues has been persistent for since early December for the two Lago buildings. But just prior to the meeting, hot water returned to one of the two unit stacks. This occurred in the morning after ProStar, our boiler company, cleaned the boiler screen. Since the issue had disappeared for this two unit stack, nothing could be investigated for this stack. For the other two unit stack cold water crossover was still present. But only for certain fixtures. The plumbers said that the only way to resolve this issue would be to trace the lines in the two units which might require removing the drywall. This will be for a future follow on. Gas Detected During one of the boiler cycles, the plumbers observed a gas smell. After investigating for leaks with a sniffer, they identified a small amount of gas was released during a cycle from the Boiler. They concluded, that was caused by insufficient flow related to the restricted gas lines and there was no danger involved. This will be addressed by the SoCalGas gas line upgrades currently being scheduled. Plumbers Conclusions and Plan There were many suggestions, the most immediate one being to increase the gas lines to these boiler. After that, the identified crossover issues will be addressed along with some maintenance to some water shutoff valves. The Board approved the 16521 Boiler gas line and meter update a couple of months ago and this upgrade in the process. Once that is completed, other boiler gas line upgrades are up for Board approval. ■

posted 11 December 2022

Lukewarm Water

December Crossover Invesigation (part 1)

On Monday December 5, 2022, members of the Architectural Committee Michael Barto and Dave Schubert, and Board member Mike Borzi performed a plumbing crossover evaluation on three and a half buildings. This entailed turning the water off for 70 units. We concluded that twelve units had crossover issues. Seven on the Grunion side and five in the two Lago Buildings. This effort did not fix anything, but was solely performed to isolate the problem. In the coming weeks we will bring in a specialized plumber to track down and repair the issues discovered.

More Units Added

Originally the team was only to evaluate 16521 Grunion and the north half of 16551 Grunion, which utilize the same boiler. But just before Monday, residents from the 4791 Lago building started reporting similar lukewarm water issues. It was decided at the last minute to also include that building in the evaluation plus the 4831 Lago building as it uses the same boiler. This may have been a mistake as manpower resources were really strained during this evaluation. There was just too much work. If it was not for the last minute volunteering of resident Dave Schubert, the team would have been sunk.

Boilers Showed Crossover

Hot water was turned off to the buildings and the hot return line spigot was turned on to drain the hot water from the

buildings. Cold water remained on. Residents were asked to turn on all their hot water faucets to speed up the draining of the pipes in the building. If everything worked right, the hot water drain would stop to a trickle at the boiler drain spigot. But this did not happen as the return spigot continued to flow. This indicated that crossover was occurring where the cold water line was mixing with the hot water line. Both boilers demonstrated this same result.

Stack Cold Water Shutoffs

Cold water to each buildings can be turned off by stack. A stack consist of two or three units vertically. The cold water turnoffs for the three bedroom stacks are located near the gas meters enclosures, whereas the cold water shutoff for the one and two bedroom stacks are located inside the bottom floor unit patio for that stack.


*3 bd shutoff*	*1-2 bd shutoff*

Isolating the Crossover

The evaluation team proceeded to turn off the cold water in each stack to see if the boiler return spigot drain would stop. If so, then that stack was identified as having a crossover. This would narrow down the results to only two or three units in a stack instead of a whole building. With three and half building involved, the team had to turn on and turn off a potential of 28 valves and check back with two boilers.

Nobody Home

The team was able to complete the evaluation for the two Lago buildings. The 16521 Grunion two bedroom stacks were not evaluated because no one was home to allow us access to their patio. This may have been an oversight in planning and communications will be improved next time.

Next Step

Identifying the stacks with this method does not necessarily mean there is a bad valve in a member's unit. There may be other issues with fixtures such as incorrectly installed, a bad washing machine valve or even the hydronic heater. But somehow cold water is getting into the hot water lines. The HOA has contracted a specialized plumbing service to traces the lines to where this crossover is occurring. When this happens, members will again be asked to have their water turned off and the plumbers will need access to the suspected units. ■

Editor Notes:

A three bedroom unit stack did not show up as a crossover issue from the boiler spigot drain when their cold water was turn off. But inside their units with the cold turned off, cold water still continued to flow in their units from thier fixtures. It is theorized that the plumbing in this stack has two cold water sources.
Members who experience lukewarm water or lack of pressure, should make sure the cartridge in their mixing type fixtures are clean and in proper working order.
Member might consider doing their own cross over research. They can turn off their sinks with the valves located under their cabinets of their fixtures and also turn off the washing machine hoses and to see if they now get hot water to their shower. This would identify these fixtures as the problem.
The evaluation on this Monday was for crossover only. Southern California Gas identified that the gas lines to the boilers are undersized and recommended an upgrade to an MSA 85 m/r meter. The first installation will be scheduled for the 16521 Grunion Boiler (16521 and north side 16551 Grunion Buildings).

posted 9 April 2023
Lukewarm Water Lukewarm Water Meeting On April 4, 2023, the Architectural Committee held an open meeting for the owners and residents of the 4791 and 4831 Lago Buildings who were experiencing lukewarm water. The meeting was held in the Cabana Clubhouse and 10 people attended. Background Over the past 12 months we have received a number of reports about lack of hot water in the 4791 and 4831 Lago Buildings. There have also been many statements, often not substantiated, as to the reason. The purpose of the meeting was to provide information, define responsibilities of the home owner vs. HOA and to set up a plan of action to solve the problem. Introduction This meeting was held under the auspices of the HOA Architectural Committee and was called to order by its Chair Michael Barto. The Architectural committee is a volunteer committee and no one on a committee or holding a position in the HOA gets paid to perform work. Not an Apartment Complex Harbour Vista is not an apartment complex. There is no landlord to report to or a separate ownership. All owners of the property are members of the HOA, they elect the members of the Board and contribute assessments to maintain the property. Governing Documents The HOA is operated by its governing documents and by the David-Stirling Act. As a condo owner a member get equity from their unit and are share holders of the common areas. Members are fully responsible for the interiors of their unit and all plumbing fixtures which include shower valves, faucets, heater and washing machine hookups. Asking the HOA to replace any of these items inside the members condo would be be reflected in an increase of assessments. Video Michael Barto showed a video from “This Old House” explaining why a “pressure balance” valve fails (See https://youtu.be/6CiU_3Q-yVY). He also provide other links to similar videos: VIDEO1: https://youtu.be/6CiU_3Q-yVY This Old House VIDEO2: https://youtu.be/qnLMwkbU1V0 Moen Valve VIDEO2: https://youtu.be/_XrK82vyZlg Inside American Standard VIDEO3: https://youtu.be/Au1NyawBFvw Cleaning Mixet Valves He explained that the HOA had performed an extensive survey to have all old Mixet shower valves replaced, as they have shown to have severe technically issues. Membership was asked to replace them under threat of legal action. The assumption is that all the old Mixet valves have been replaced for the 4791 and 4831 Lago Buildings. Pressure Balance Valves When plumbers recommend you replace old Mixet valves with new “pressure balance” valves, they sometimes forget to mention that “pressure balance” cartridges need to replaced every 3 to 5 years. Also, if you do not use your shower on a regular basis, they may fail under those conditions. It is recommended that “pressure balance” cartridges be replaced every two to three years, especially with the high sediment that is present in the Huntington Beach water supply. Laars Boiler History Members have suggested that it is the Laars Boiler system serving this building that is the problem.This is unlikely as the current Boiler has almost been completely rebuilt. No Sediment Strainer Michael Barto pointed out that the Laars Boiler was purchased in 2018, but appears to have been installed improperly by the then maintenance vendor Benrich. They were installed using an undersized gas line and with no sediment strainer to protect the Boiler. In 2020, the HOA had sediment screens installed and start an effort to improve the boiler with a larger pump, an air bleed valve and monitoring thermometers. Ignitor Failure to Leak In January of this year, the boiler igniters started failing. Finally the boiler itself started leaking. The HOA quickly approved the $10,000 needed to replace the Laars Boiler heat exchanger. When removed, the heat exchanger revealed high sediment in the manifold. This sediment probably has also been transported to the building infrastructure piping causing “pressure balance” valves in shower or sink to prematurely fail. Heat Exchanger Replaced Michael showed a picture of the work performed by ProStar in the rain to replace the boiler heat exchanger and passed around examples of the material they found in the old heat exchanger. One resident asked if there was a warranty on the Boiler. Michael stated that there was a 10 year warranty as long as it was installed property-which it was not. Gas Line Upgraded At the end of the month of February the Southern California Gas (the request was placed five months ago) updated the gas meter which results in easier starts and elimination of a gas smell. All Complaints Not Recorded Michael Barto stated that our old Property Manager Brad Crocker has been replaced by Cameron Hamilton. Brad’s biggest failure is that he did not get back to the membership in a timely manner or organize projects very well. This is not true of Cameron as he is very responsive and gets back to members right away. Whatever the case is, the HOA has only four reports of lukewarm water issues. Without regular reporting and collection of this data, the HOA is blind as to exactly what to repair. Complex Problem Plumbers will tell you that this is complex problem. It usually entails replacing one component at a time and finally the problem will disappear. It has been stated that we may have to have over 70 shower valves investigated in one pass to get to the root of the problem. Boiler Cross Over Testing Several months ago, the Architectural Committee and ProStar ran a test to identify cross over issues in individual stacks for the two Lago Buildings and one and a half Grunion buildings. This test identified five such cross over stack issues. The HOA requested that the Property Manager contact these owner and get this fixed. This request has also appeared in the last four board packets Cooperation Needed Michael expressed that many residents and homeowners have demonstrated a lack of cooperation in repairing cross over issues that affect multiple units. Mostly because they want the HOA to pay for it which will raise everyone’s dues. Elite Detection Plan In the plan from Elite Leak Detection, which the HOA is funding, they want access to all units over a two day period with multiple plumbers. There are 40 units. Coordinating such an event will be complicated to say the least. Single Stack Resident Nancy Greco reported a lukewarm water issue. Her unit stack was identified as having severe cross over in that previous survey. With a new property manager, a plumber from Coast Plumbing was dispatched to investigate her unit and the one above her (her stack consist of two units). The plumber identified an issue with a “pressure balance” valve in her second bathroom. The cold water line to the stack was turned off in that vertical stack. What he observed was the year old “pressure balance” valve in her 2nd bathroom continued to flow even though the cold water was off. This should not happen! If one side of the valve is turned off, then the flow should stop. Michael Barto also verified this with two major plumbing vendors. Nancy says she is going to get that valve replaced, and see if it fixes the problem. The unit above is vacant and has all its fixtures capped off. Homeowners’ Testing Plan Though the HOA is in the process of funding Elite Leak Detection for a major investigation of all units, which will be expensive, members are able perform their own test to locate “pressure balance” valves issues and replace defective “pressure balance” valves. Cold Water Shutoff Testing The cold water test only applies to two or three units at a time in a vertical stack. The inspection would require cooperation of residents in the stack to turn off the cold water valves for about 15 minutes. Once the cold water is off, residents may inspect the faucets of each unit - looking for excessive water flow. A form needs to be filled out for each unit and delivered to the Architectural Committee. Each stack should set up an owner or resident to coordinate this inspection. A member of the Architectural Committee can be present to provide aid. Fill Out Form Michael passed out a two page form () with fields to be filled out. The form showed the location of the cold water shutoff valves in each building. He requested that someone be designated as the coordinator for each stack and return all forms to the Architectural Committee upon completion of the test. Proactive Response A few members want the HOA to perform this. This would require setting up a volunteer staff, pay money to a third party. Nancy Greco stated that she wants to replaced her valve as soon as possible. Michael Barto suggest that they have an extra water shutoff this month for that purpose. Several members said they wanted wanted to start next Monday. Michael said, he would have the water turn off for Mondays from 9 to 4pm for those who wanted to do that. But a request must be submitted to Progressive. General Results The most important thing to take away from this meeting, was that most attendees now want to take responsibility and participate in solving the problem. Explaining that Harbour Vista is an HOA and not an apartment complex better clarified the process. Switching to a new Property Manager Cameron Hamilton has improved the response time to get issues resolved. But communication is an issue, and there was some animosity to the HOA from this group. But it still needs to be pointed out, that the owners are the HOA - so are they are really mad at themselves. Very few of the attendees have ever attended a Board meeting or even read the monthly agenda posted at the mail box. Michael expressed that he needs help and thank resident Nancy Greco for her contribution in compiling a list of the residents in the two buildings having lukewarm water problems to bring this meeting together. ■ Notes: One person felt that the Board does things without asking the membership. Yet this person seemed to have not attended the regular monthly Board meetings or read the posted agendas. A member suggested that the HOA should provide a free space heater because his heater does not work. This type of funding would have an impact on all members’ assessments. Harbour Vista has two boiler types. Three Laars Boiler and two RayPak Boilers. Though it may appear that we have less trouble from the RayPak Boilers, that is not true. According to the maintenance vendors who service both, both types have about the same amount of failures. The only difference between Laars and Raypak, is that RayPak is easier to service and parts are readily available locally. Whereas parts for the Laars boilers must be shipped from back east. Michael said he was working on making a proposal for a soft water treatment system for the boilers, but he does need help to locate and evaluate solutions.

posted 23 May 2023
Land Lease Committee April Status Land Lease Committee Report April 11, 2023 by Mariette van den Bersselaar This is a summary of the status from Land Lease Committee meeting held April 11, 2023 The new Land Lease Attorney Patrick Munoz and his staff are in the process of reviewing all HOA land lease related documents and correspondence that the committee has provided. Next Meeting Our next joint meeting will be held in June time frame. It is the intent of the attorney and staff to evaluate the underlying facts and laws and provide counsel to the HOA in pursuing negotiating a buyout of the sublease, or extension of the sublease, or potential litigation. Entire HOA The Board is acting on behalf of the entire HOA and we will advise of what type of commitment may be required for each of the types of negotiations (mostly of a financial nature) before we enter in such negotiation. If we are able to negotiate a buyout of the sublease, a loan to cover this buyout could potentially be funded by the monthly land lease payments as they exist today. If we need to pursue an option to extend the sublease to 2056, where we would remain in partnership with the sublease owner, some form of down payment would probably be required. This could be funded through a loan on the individual property. Finally, we will also consider purchase of the land itself, which is a whole different kind of commitment. Each of these options will be explained in detail as more information becomes available.■ For any question about the Land Lease or its status, contact the Land Lease Committee at: [email protected]

posted 23 April 2023
Architectural Committee Balcony Inspection Meeting The Architectural Committee held a special meeting ton April 11, 2023 to interview one of the companies that sent in bid to perform balcony inspection as specified by the recent State Law SB326. This inspection of the entire community must be completed by January 1, 2025. Attending were Michael Barto (Chair), Chat Tran and Robert Sulivan. The two owners of California Balcony Inspection (CBI) Cindi and Shane Bitts were in attendance. The purpose of this meeting was to obtain an understanding of the requirement of the inspection and the process. History SB 326 requires associations to conduct visual inspections of exterior elevatedelements and load-bearing components six feet above ground, including: balconies, decks, patios, and elevated walkways (landings). The waterproofing system for each exterior elevated element must also be inspected. It requires that a Licensed Structural Engineer or Architect generate a report summarizing the findings, which should then be included in the association’s reserve study. Deadline After this initial inspection and report is completed by January 1, 2025. A similar inspection will be made every nine years. The inspector must prepare a signed, detailed report and present it to the HOA board with the repair recommendations. The HOA board must then budget for the repairs and complete them within a reasonable time period – say for that fiscal year defined by the reserve study. Multiple Bids One of the reasons for this meeting was that the multiple bids for this project from $27,000 to $110,000. The bids were difficult to compare by defining one thing in one bid and another in another bid specifying different requirements. CBI mentioned that many of these estimates were created from the vendor looking at Google satellite maps. Camera Video Scope Part of the structural inspection a camera video scope would be used to look inside each enclosed structure for dry rot. This would require drilling an access hole to run a camera video scope and then closing off the hole when completed. It was pointed out to CBI, that all of Harbour Vista balcony flooring are open from the bottom and not enclosed. Therefore the cost of drilling holes and closing them off to performing a camera video scope inspection would not be incurred to which CBI agreed. Also, the stairways at Harbour Vista and possibly the landings are metal structures with wood facades. Therefore, they do not need any internal inspection for dry rot. What is Required CBI explained that their inspection will create a comprehensive report with a list of exterior elevated elements. They categorize four levels from “one” to “five”. “Five” requiring immediate attention and would be reported to the City of Huntington Beach to be “red tagged”. “One” is a perfect score. But to CBI knowledge, no inspection that they had conducted has received a “one”. Their physical inspection will require that they have permission to access a homeowner’s balconies. This is mostly accomplished with the use of ladders. The vendor suggested a couple of days to week to complete this inspection depending on what they find. They would like to perform all the inspections at Harbour Vista at one time Conclusion The Architectural Committee concluded that the HOA should create a scope of work (via the Architectural Committee) for bidding so that all vendor will be evaluated at the same level. For budgeting purposes, it maybe better to break this project into two parts One in this year’s budget and other in next year’s budget. The first inspection would help the HOA to better understand the impact on our HOA assessments and budget for correctness. Next Step The Architectural Committee intends to hold one more meeting with another potential vendor to ask other questions and validate some of our conclusions.■ Note: CBI level grading scale: balcony is in perfect condition. no action needed. minor repair and or maintenance top coat is recommended waterproofing repairs and or minor wood rot wood rot was detected recommend replacement balcony is in unsafe condition and needs immediate shoring

posted 07 December 2022

November 2022 Safety Meeting Summary

Additional Building Numbers
Fire Gate Drop Gates
Handicap Access
by Rick Manning

A Safety Committee Meeting was held on Thursday November 17, 2022. The meeting was called to order at 7:10 pm. In attendance were Rick Manning (Chair), Keith Levin, and Cynthia Lee.

Steppingstones for Walking

The Safety Committee has turned the steppingstones to the gardeners for their use around the property to access areas around planters etc. Status, unknown. A landscaping committee issue.

Signage

There are only a few pool safety signs that need replacing but there is other signage around the property that need to be replaced due to fading or in need of repair. We are putting together a spreadsheet listing several venders and comparing costs which will be presented to the board for discussion and approval.

Fire Gate Drop Gates

The issue behind drop gates for these points of entry are to prevent teens or vagrants from crawling under where the gate crosses over the water drainage way. It was discussed about having an additional metal “lift style” drop gate to fill the area that can be locked down and unlocked by the FD in emergencies. One contractor submitted a bid, but the board asked Brad if he could contact 2 additional metal gate fabrication specialists to find one that will meet a budget approval.

Security Cameras

Cory from Golden Eye Surveillance Systems has been working on a failure of one part, the receiver on the clubhouse. Cory will fix when the part is in. Only 2 cameras are active now. He wants to have the system fully functional prior to Thanksgiving.

Security Locking Gates for Pools

A-Abbot Locksmith Pool and Keys (Supplement) $10,248.42

This item is still ON HOLD however, we are collecting information on both a credit card style reader and a key fob system. When we have sufficient information on these, we will submit the information to the board and see if they wish to proceed in obtaining bids.

Additional Building Address Numbers

Several months ago, additional building address number for the buildings were purchased. Property Manager Brad Crocker says his handyman can do the work; we just need to tell him the location where we want the signs put up. A couple of us will walk the property with building fronts and mark what building it is and where we want the new signs. This was originally an Architectural Committee project.

Unit and Building numbers and Sign

Some signs would be created to resemble street names. An example of this is Blackbeard 101, 201, 103, 203 and would hang on the light post. Where the elevators or stairs to the three-story they would be plaque style and be on the adjacent wall to the stairs or elevator. (this should actually be a Landscaping item).

Sidewalk Sanding/Replacement

This is a tripping liability issue for the HOA. A contractor that was supplied by Progressive and I did a walk through which was a separate report and marked locations that need to be sanded down or replaced due to root up lifting and concrete breaking or cracking. A bid will be submitted from this contractor, but I think that we should get one more estimate. This issue should be done ASAP even if we do not get a second bid and go with the one that will be submitted.

Handicap Access

This is an ongoing discussion in our committee. At some point the HOA may have to become Handy-capable compliant. This would require Curb ramps and curb cut outs. Ramps for bridges, etc. There was something said about our property being “Grandfathered” and these changes were not needed. However, there is only one loading zone ramp on Blackbeard, one curb ramps (poured concrete to form a ramp) on Cabana near the trash can bin behind the clubhouse. There are several elderlies that use walkers to get around. We need to provide better means for them to get from sidewalk to parking lot and vice versa. We need to coordinate with public safety for HB and see if they can help make recommendations for improvements. This is a Safety AND Architectural crossover issue.

Update to Committee Charter

A few discrepancies noted in the Safety Committee Charter compared to the committee charter summary, specifically number of Committee Members. They do not match.

Goals and Objectives need updating, add “Identify Disabled/medical dependent, HOSPIC, or Homeowner that needs extra assistance in case of an emergency evacuation.

Ask for one HO per building to act as POC for and as a source for emergence information (per charter goals and objectives). Will do a flyer to ask for these persons.

Prepare a community safety plan. Cannot find one so will address and prepare a plan for approval (per charter goals and objectives).

Update Committee Page in Newsletter

No new Safety Newsletter has been published since 2019. It was decided that only two issues should be done, one in the summer and one in the winter. Hopefully we can have something to email out to the emails the HOA has and mail to those that have just addresses.

New Business

Possibility of obtaining a Private Security Company

lock and unlock bathrooms
patrol the property and issue parking violation tickets. ■

Editor Notes:

The cameras became fully function around November 29th and are recording the property at this time.
Live and recorded videos can be view on a phone or a PC by the Board or their designate.

posted 24 September 2022
September 2022 Architectural Committee Meeting Architectural Committee Meeting White Door Pulldown Ladder The Architectural Committee met on September 16, 2022, at the Cabana Clubhouse.Those attending were Michael Barto (Chair), Robert Sullivan and Yolanda Rangel (via Zoom). It was announce the Chat Tran has joined the Committee which will be certified at the next HOA Meeting. He could not make this meeting due to a previous commitment. But he has taken on the assignment to develop a scope of work for several project for the HOA. Pulldown Ladder A member appeared in person to answer questions for his Architectural request to install a pulldown ladder in his top floor three bedroom unit. This ladder is intended to be used for maintenance purposes and will be installed in his walk-in closet. This installation will expand the existing crawl space entrance.The access is limited for utility purposes. The Committee approved the request. There was some discussion that approval for pulldown ladders installed using the existing crawl space entrance for top floor three bedroom units should be included in the update to the Architectural Guidelines for 2023. Once adopted for the new Guidelines, Architectural Committee approval will not be required. Electric Vehicle Charging It was brought to the attention of the Architectural Committee, that a member has installed an unapproved EV charging cabling system from his downstairs unit to an unassigned parking space. The HOA has issued a violation notice to this member and is requesting that he remove this system. The member will be directed to submit an Architectural request for a replacement and properly engineered system. The Committee decided to request that such systems be installed by a qualified electrician and that City permits and inspection be required. Furthermore, if the member wishes to install such a system to serve an unassigned space, the HOA will not enforce any parking restriction for this space whether used personally by the member for EV charging or used as an unassigned space. The 72 hour limit for parking in this space will still apply. White Door It was brought to the attention of the Architectural Committee, that a member has installed a white front door without Architecture Committee approval. The Architectural Guidelines states that a front door must be walnut in color with molding. But many members really like this white door and if it was allowed, they would want one themselves.The Committee is considering updating the Architectural Guidelines to allow different type doors. The reason is that the original doors installed at Harbour Vista are no longer made. This has lead to many variations even in the color of the door and molding. But, such variations are not obvious with the building as they are partially covered by the elevator, stairwell shaft, a hallway or a screen. The Committee has requested a letter be submitted to this person and request that she submit an Architectural request for review and approval by the Committee. ■

posted 24 August 2022
August 2022 Safety Meeting Summary NEW CHAIR Dog Park Pet Stations Charter Update A meeting of the Harbour Vista Safety Committee was held on August 15, 2022 on Monday at 7pm with four in attendance. Rich Manning hosted the meeting as the new Safety Committee chair. Those in attendance were Dana Prechtl, Robin Smith, Keith Levin, Ed Fernandez, Susan McClendon and Mariette van den Bersselaar who represented the HOA President. Complex Meeting With seven attendees and a new Chair, the meeting touched on general discussions, agenda items, and new business. Current Concerns Open or current issues that were handed to Safety Committee were discussed: Dog Park Poop Stations 2 stations are completed and installed; 4 additional stations were on hold from Lowe's and are now not available. It was determined that the Landscaping committee issue not Safety. Project is now on hold. Brad was to ordering 4 from Amazon, needs verification and follow up on where to buy (Brad, Robin, Jill working) Building Address Numbers Made and ready to be installed; Need a handyman to do work or maybe one of our home owners that have the skills. Architectural Committee will be following up. Grunion Pool Bathrooms Materials are being bought and work needs to be scheduled. Discussed whether a professional tile worker needs to be hired or handyman, that TBD. Now Architectural Committee will follow up. Stepping Stone Walk Stones behind Cabana clubhouse have been removed, Gardeners will now use them in flowerbeds or areas they need access. Larger steppingstones to be perched if need be. Landscaping Committee and Robin to follow up on. Agenda Items Issues specifically Safety Committee were discussed: Safety Regulation Signs Gate signs, Trash bin, Dog pooping signs are out and around the area. Issue we are still deciding on is the wording and how large the pool gate signs should be. This is still in planning stages. Once the design is agreed on by the committee, we will present to the board with cost proposal. Grunion Fire Gate Issue is that teens or vagrants can crawl under where the gate crosses over the water drainage way. It was discussed about having an additional metal “lift style” drop gate to fill the area that can be locked down and unlocked by the FD in emergencies. On hold for now until new board and budget is approved. Security Camera Bid Issue Golden Eye Surveillance Systems for around $17K New bid includes only three Entry/Exit gate surveillance cameras (6 total), both Pools (4 total) Both Mail boxes (2 Total), and Dog Park/Basketball court (1 Total); One 24/7, 30 day Recording DVR Will be presented to the Board for approval. Security Locking Gates for Pools New pool keys and locks for approximately $10K It was determined that this issue was put ON HOLD due to emergence repair bill to boiler. New Business New Business items for the meeting were discussed. Update to Committee Charter A few discrepancies noted in charter compared to the committee charter summery, specifically number of Committee Members. They do not match. Goals and Objectives need updating, add “Identify Disabled/medical dependent, HOSPIC, or Home Owner that needs extra assistance in case of an emergency evacuation. Ask for one HO per building to act as POC for and as a source for emergence information (per charter goals and objectives). Will do a flyer to ask for these persons. Prepare a community safety plan. Cannot find one so will address and prepare a plan for approval (per charter goals and objectives). Update Committee page in newsletter Not updated since 2019. A new committee member was ask to read/review and compare with Huntington Beach Public Safety Plan and update as needed then will submit for to board for approval (per charter goals and objectives). Handy-capable Access Curb ramps and curb cut outs. Ramps for bridges??? There was something said about our property being “Grandfathered” and these changes were not needed. However there is only one loading zone ramp on Blackbeard, two curb ramps (poured concrete to form a ramp) on Cabana near the trash can bin near clubhouse. There are several elderly that use walkers to get around. We need to provide better means for them to get from sidewalk to parking lot and vice versa. Need to coordinate with public safety for HB and see if they can make recommendations for improvements. General Discussion Unit number signs on light posts at walk for front doors. Resembling a street sign. Building name and unit numbers, example Blackbeard 101, 201 103, 203 (Landscaping) ■

posted 19 April 2022
Land Lease Committee March Status Land Lease Will Run Into Issues by Eric Bonholtzer This is a summary of a report provided to the Board at the March 28, 2022 General Session HOA Meeting from the Land Lease Committee spokesperson Eric Bonholtzer. The appraiser has been diligently researching the value of the land lease held by Mr. Dickey and Harbour Vista including the 15-year extension between 2041 and 2056 to create a valuation which Harbour Vista can use as a basis for a loan and potential purchase negotiations. In particular, the well-regarded appraiser has indicated that Mr. Dickey will run into several substantial issues if he wishes to convert the properties into rentals for the term between 2041 and 2056. The Issues These issues include, but are not limited to, Huntington Beach’s strict rules and regulations regarding requirements for low-income housing, change in use fees and rehabilitation costs, as well as language included in the original lease agreements. While the appraiser’s valuation is not complete, he has plans to meet with Huntington Beach city officials in the upcoming week or so to discuss specific restrictions regarding the Harbour Vista property. The end goal is to create a fair valuation which can be used in negotiations. Funding Once a valuation has been obtained, the HOA will approach lending institutions to see the cost of funding such a loan and what the financial implications would be, if any, to the residents of Harbour Vista. Markup Currently, Mr. Dickey has a substantial markup over his lease agreement with the Duc Family who owns the title to the land. If the loan purchase is successful, instead of paying a monthly land lease payment to Mr. Dickey, the money would instead go towards paying the loan and paying the Duc Family directly. The full financial implications will be divulged to HOA members in advance of any final negotiation as member approval is necessary. Buyout Buyout of the lease is necessary to prevent the Harbour Vista property from reverting to Mr. Dickey in 2041. If successful, negotiations for purchase of the land from the Duc family can be explored. ■ For any question about the Land Lease or its status, contact the Land Lease Committee at: [email protected]

posted 16 August 2022
August 2022 Architectural Committee Meeting EV Charging, Outside Light Fixtures Patio Covers Two members of the Architectural Committee and the Board President Michael Barto met on August 8, 2022 to review and edit the Architectural Guidelines to submit to the Harbour Vista Board of Directors. Dana Prechtl lead the meeting as the new Architectural Committee Chair replacing Michaal Barto. Agenda Topics of discussion were Electric Vehicle charging in garages, use of attic space for top floor units, exterior light fixtures, garage inspections, top floor patio covers, mixet valves in units and any pending Architectural Committee review requests. The following items were determined as such. All plug in vehicles must submit an Architectural Committee review form to the committee, seeking approval to utilize HOA provided electricity inside each garage unit for an additional assessment of $50 per month. Form has been updated and posted on the HV website. The illegal conversion of attic space for top floor units has been tabled for further discussion. Unit owners may replace existing exterior light fixtures with updated lights, providing they are aesthetically pleasing and use LED bulbs. Due to the significant increase in the HOA paid for electricity bill, it has been discovered that some residents are illegally charging their EV vehicles in their garage units, as well as those using this “free” power to plug in refrigerator/freezers and other unapproved items. Because this is against HOA rules and regulations, there will be garage inspections moving forward to determine who is in violation of abusing this rule. Architectural Committee has determined that top floor units may install patio covers that are approved by the committee. Styles and materials approved are slatted covers and solid with ARC approved roofing materials. Some units have not replaced their mixet valves and as such, have had water temp issues that affect themselves and their neighbors. It has been determined that once this is completed, those issues should be abated. ■

posted 21 April 2022
April 2022 Safety Meeting Summary SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING The first meeting of the Harbour Vista Safety Committee was held on April 4, 2022 on Saturday morning starting at 9:30am with four in attendance. The new membership consist of Robin Smith, the Chairperson, Edward Fernandez, Rick Manning and Keith Levin. Both Robin Smith and Rick Manning are new members of Harbour Vista. Property Safety Issue It was pointed out that there are several walking hazards at Harbour Vista with uprooted sidewalks and tree roots. It was suggested that a list be made of these issues and provide to the Board to take action. In this same issue, the Safety Committee has identified issues some trees that are posing a hazard and wil pass this information along to the Landscaping Committee to resolve the issues. Stair Railings and Woodwork Need Repair The Safety Committee tasked themselves to identify stair railing that need repairs. The Board is in the process of obtain a handyman to repair these items. Building Signs The nine buildings at Harbour Vista only have signs on one or two sides. This confuse delivery person who many time leave the packages at the wrong address. This was identified as an issue several months ago by the Board and the HOA had purchased additional signs which have been delivered. For some reason when Powerstone order them, they did not provided someone to install them. It was pointed out that Powerstone and our new Property Manager Progressive are in the process of obtaining quotes for installation which will be approved at the next HOA meeting Trash Control The Safety Committee wants to manage Trask pick up more efficiently at Harbour Vista. A suggestion was to provide recycling bin. There was a discussion about the logistics for such a move as all trash bins are for all types of trash. Discussion of this will continue at the next meeting. At the same time, the Committee would like to post the schedule dates for trash pick and large item trash pickup at the bins or bin enclosure. Currently such notice is only at the Mailbox bulletin boards Landscaping Fertilizer And Spraying There is an issue that some of the landscapers fertilizer may be harmful to pets until it is exhorted by the ground. It was suggest that the landscapers post notices when they lay fertilizer or perform spraying. This will be passed to the Landscaping Committee. Gates Left Open The Safety Committee would like to improve the entrances gate closing by reversing the springs on many of them the other way so they will spring back to close better. More Lighting The Safety Committee would like more lighting of the grounds. The HAO has already installed two low voltage transformer in daRK areas as a pilot. But the purchase of low voltage lights and their placement has yet to be defined. It is suggest that this Committee take over this project and coordinate it with the Landscaping Committee. Fire Extinguishers Many of the Fire Extinguishers seem to have not been inspected and are out of date. They Safety Committee will ask the Board to have inspection perform on the Extinguishers. Cameras at Harbour There was discussion about adding cameras to at least monitor the Parking areas for vandalism. Safety Committee member Rich Manning has background in IT and was asked to lead such a project and will report back to the committee. Current there is one video Camera as a pilot at the Cabana Pool. Stone Walkway The Safety Committee will imitate a project to lay a stone walkway between the Cabana Clubhouse and the Garage. Signs The Safety Committee with Committee member Keith Levin will create new signs and have them posted. This includes the hours for the basketball court and more “no skateboarding” as well as refurbishing the current signs at Harbour Vista. Grunion Pool Restrooms The Safety Committee wants to take on a project to refurbish the Grunion Pool Restrooms. The HOA is in the process of funding and employing a handy man to perform this project. ■

posted 6 March 2022
Land Lease Committee February Status Appraiser Hired by Eric Bonholtzer The board previously approved the hiring of Mr. Valdez, an experienced appraiser, to determine the value of the “sandwich” lease between Mr. Dickey and the Duc family (so called because there is a limited term for Mr. Dickey’s lease sandwiched between Harbour Vista’s interests and the Duc family’s interests in the property). Primary Focus The primary focus of the appraisal is for the lease term between 2041 and 2056 which Harbour Vista is interested in purchasing from Mr. Dickey if a fair deal can be reached. There was a delay in the property management company getting the check to Mr. Valdez, but he has received it and is working diligently on the appraisal. Reviewing Mr. Valdez is in the process of reviewing all the relevant documents pertaining to Harbour Vista’s lease agreements with Mr. Dickey, as well as the original lease with the Duc family. Must Adhere Of particular note, the appraiser has determined that there are several binding clauses which require Mr. Dickey (or any other property owner) who wish to change the usage of the property, for example turning the Harbour Vista condos into wide-scale rental apartments, to strictly adhere to the local and state regulations governing the usage of the property. These change of use regulations are particularly strict in California and require a significant amount of low income and subsidized housing which would directly cut into the profitability of such a venture. ■ For any question about the Land Lease or its status, contact the Land Lease Committee at: [email protected]

posted 25 November 2021
Land Lease Committee November Status Second Vote by Eric Bonholtzer This month the Harbour Vista community pulled together for a significant milestone in unanimous approval of extending the HOA past 2041. The importance of this step cannot be understated as it will enable the HOA to negotiate financing beyond 2041 to make a competitive offer to Mr. Dickey to buyout the sublease. Appraisal Next Step The next step in the process is getting a formal appraisal. Mr. Dickey has requested seeing a formal appraisal as the value of the lease between 2041 and 2056 is subject to multiple variables. Muiltiple Factors To create the appraisal, the HOA has retained an expert appraiser who will analyze the multiple factors that go into valuation including but not limited to city regulations regarding change of use, cost of change of use, value of potential rentals, and most significantly present discount value of the lease. This is a complex formula that will take some time to put together. The budget for the appraiser has already been approved and he is beginning immediately putting together the appraisal. He has anticipated finishing by the end of the year. Net Cost to Owner Once the HOA has an appraisal of the fair value of the lease, they can take this to lending institutions to determine what kind of loan can be obtained. At that point, it can be determined what the net cost to unit owners will be and an offer can be made to Mr. Dickey. Buyout As previously discussed, Mr. Dickey has made it clear he will not extend the sublease with the HOA, and will only consider a buyout of the full lease (including his extension) or he intends to take everyone’s property to make them into rentals in 2041. HOA Assessments It is important to note that any cost will replace the land lease payment that is due each month. Instead of paying Mr. Dickey for the land lease, the unit owners will be paying themselves back via paying off the loan. Most importantly, this will prevent everyone losing their property in 2041 which is what will happen if we cannot purchase the land lease. The Second Vote Once attractive financing becomes available, a secondary proposal to approve a buyout will be presented for a vote. It will also give the HOA the potential for purchasing the land as the HOA would be able to deal directly with the Duc family. Attractive Financing Once the HOA is extended we can explore financing options. Once attractive financing becomes available, a secondary proposal to approve a buyout will be presented for a vote. ■ Editor Note: It should be noted that members currently sub lease payments would be replace by a loan payment assessment with he HOA which may be the same, more or less as to what is paid now.

posted 25 November 2021
Ad Hoc Committee Senior Ad Hoc Committee Report At the Board Meeting on September 1, 2021, it was stated that among the top five poorly address issues by most HOA’s is support of the aging residents. Member at Large Mary Williams was asked to chair an Ad Hoc Committee to discuss Harbour Vista senior concerns. A meeting was held on Tuesday, October 12 at the Cabana Clubhouse. Those in attendance were Mary Williams, Rose Reddick and Emil Yonke. American Disability Act Before discussing, the Committee unanimously recommended that Harbour Vista does nothing that would jeopardize losing its grandfathered status from new American Disability Act (ADA). Concerns of Seniors Prior to the meeting, a survey was taken by the member of the Committee of the senior community. This is a summary of that survey and their recommendations. Elevators - Cleanliness. Safety issues if an elevator malfunctions when a person is inside. Fire Department to be called. Recommend that a person does not ride in elevator without their cell phone. Perhaps a notice posted in elevator to call fire department. Include telephone number. Lighting - Pathways are too dark. Need more lighting. Excess Noise - The basketball court can be extremely noisy when children are playing. Also their balls end up on residents patios and balconies. The HOA is the process of obtaining bids to install netting around the perimeter fence to prevent ball escaping the area. Walkways - Excess vegetation hanging over the walkways. This can be a trip hazard for people unstable with their footing. Landscapers need to be informed to keep overhanging plants off walkways, Skateboards - Complaints about children riding their skateboards, scooters, bicycles etc on sidewalks. This is not allowed but it is done all the time. Seniors cannot get out of the way easily and children do not always pay attention to their surroundings. More enforcement of existing rules. It was suggested that more signs be installed to emphasize the rules. Concrete - Ridges in the concrete are a trip hazard when walking and become an issue with a person using a walker or wheelchair. Bridges - Need reflective tape or reflectors on edges of bridges crossing the waterways. Difficult to see at night. Presented to the Board This report was presented to the Board at the October 28 HOA Meeting. Safety Committee Chair Mike Peduzzi has been installing reflected tape on bridges and walkway. The Board is also working in installing netting at the basket ball court. More cement walkway repairs are in the budget for next year. Powerstone was requested to obtain a quotes for signs in the elevator. The Landscaping Committee had installed two low voltage transformer systems for lighting at the darker pathways. As for sound issues, Harbour Vista is a mixed community, and children play as long as it is reasonable is acceptable. Their maybe be an update to the "Rules and Regulations" to address this issue particular for the basketball court to limit its use to a specific time limit in the evening. ■

posted 3 October 2021
Land Lease Committee September Land Lease Committee Meeting Eric Bonholtzer gave a presentation at the board meeting noting the following points: While he is an attorney, Eric’s report was as a homeowner as he only practices personal injury law. The land lease committee has spoken to a real estate/HOA attorney as well as Mr. Dickey to find out if there are any other options than listed below and there are none. HOA will Desolve In 2041 if no action is taken the HOA will dissolve and all the Harbour Vista units will revert to the possession of Mr. Dickey. There will be no compensation given to any homeowners, the properties simply have to be turned over and the homeowners lose all the money they have put into their properties, including mortgage, equity and improvements. This is true no matter what any real estate agent or otherwise has told owners. It is by operation of contract. The real estate attorney has confirmed this after reviewing all the contract language and the current state of the law in California. Turn into Rental Mr. Dickey, per his own words, has the intention to turn all the units in Harbour Vista into rentals for the extension of the lease he has with the landowners (the Duc family) from 2041 to 2056. He believes he can make more money by doing so instead of extending the lease. While he is not interested in extending the lease, his is open to a buyout of the lease including the extension to 2056. If the community can make this happen not only would homeowners to keep their homes until at least 2056 but they could also negotiate directly with the Duc family for future extensions or even potentially a buyout. The importance of extending the lease cannot be overstated as even the additional time to 2056 will likely greatly increase property values. < Retained an Appraiser While it is easy to determine the value of the lease until 2041, the extension is more difficult due to the variables. To that end, the land lease committee has retained an expert appraiser who will put together a valuation of the lease including the extension. This will be the basis for negotiation with Mr. Dickey and something Mr. Dickey has himself requested. Vote Yes to Extend HOA The first step to making any of this happen is voting ‘yes’ to extend the HOA beyond 2041. A 75% ‘yes’ vote is needed and most importantly failure to vote is considered a ‘no’. Essentially it boils down to this: the HOA needs to be extended or everyone loses everything they have invested in Harbour Vista. Why Yes? People have asked why we cannot just vote on the land lease extension at the same time and the reason why is that the HOA as a legal entity has to exist beyond 2041 in order to get financing beyond that point. Currently, the HOA can only get a loan for less than 20 years. Once the HOA is extended fair loan pricing can be determined over the course of a 30 year loan so the net cost can be determined and can be voted on. As a side note, failure to extend the HOA beyond 2041 will almost certainly lead to an increase in HOA due. The Reason The reason why is by contract Harbour Vista is required to keep up the property or it defaults back to Mr. Dickey. So, for example, repainting the complex is normally funded by a 30 year loan. However, with less than 20 years left the cost is increased and that is passed on to homeowners in the form of special assessments or increased HOA dues. For this reason, it cannot be expressed enough how important it is to vote yes to extend the HOA. Questions and Answers The land lease committee members are available to answer any questions anyone might have via email and they will also be having an open meeting on October 14th as well as November 11th in the Cabana Clubhouse at 6:30pm. ■ Editor Notes: A mailing list for the Land Lease Committee has been establsihed where members can ask question. [email protected] See Ballot Proposition Ballot Pamphlet.

posted 3 August 2021
Land Lease Committee July 2021 Steps Taken Appraisal Started by Eric Bonholtzer This month the Land Lease Committee has taken several steps to put together a report to inform the Harbour Vista community of the options regarding a buyout. To that end, the land lease committee, with the approval of the HOA board, has retained an appraiser to determine the value of the lease. In particular the appraiser will be focusing on the 15 year extension where currently the property will revert to Dicky and he intends to turn Harbour Vista into rentals. Meeting with Appraiser The Land Lease Committee has had a meeting with the appraiser to get him to start his valuation. While the value of the lease until 2041 is fairly straight forward, there are multiple factors such as the present cash value discount of future earnings as well as inflation, change of use, and other variables that need to be quantified in order to make an informed decision on the value of the sublease with Dicky including his 15 year extension with the land owners. Risk Focus The appraiser will also focus on the risk Mr. Dickey will be assuming in a speculative future investment versus the certainty of a present cash buyout. Lease Holder's Position As previously discussed, Mr. Dickey has made it clear he will not extend the sublease with the HOA, and will only consider a buyout of the full lease (including his extension) or he intends to take everyone’s property to make them into rentals in 2041. Full Appraisal Mr. Dickey had discussed getting a full appraisal to discuss buyout negotiation. Once the appraisal is done, financing options can be explored. Vote YES to Extend the HOA All of this is only possible if the HOA is extended which makes it important to vote “yes” for extension. Quite simply put, as the HOA lawyer has made clear, if the HOA is not extended beyond 2041 everyone loses their property by operation of the sublease contracts with Mr. Dickey. Attractive Financing Once the HOA is extended we can explore financing options. Once attractive financing becomes available, a secondary proposal to approve a buyout will be presented for a vote. ■ Editor Notes: The Ballot for the members to votes YES for the HOA extension will be schedule after the HOA Election in August. This will not be a secret ballot. A mailing list for the Land Lease Committee has been established where members can submit questions. [email protected]

posted 8 June 2021
Land Lease Committee June 2021 June Land Lease Committee Report The Land Lease Committee completed several tasks this month.This included creating a proposition for the July ballot to extend the HOA beyond 2041. A ballot supplemental information pamphlet was also created. The Committee completed an initial contact with the Land Lease holder, and received approval from the HOA to obtain an appraisal of the land lease. Ballot Proposal The Committee developed a ballot proposition which was approved by the HOA to revise the CC&R to extend the HOA beyond 2041 to perpetuity. This change has a no cost impact. Approval of this measure by the membership will allow the HOA to negotiate the purchase of the lease and financial terms for up to 30 years instead of it current limitation of less than 20 years. Also this approval will allow better funding options for big ticket items such as roofs and painting. See Ballot Proposition and Ballot Pamphet. Phone Call with Lease Owner The Land Lease Committee contacted Land Lease Holder William P. Dickey by email for a preliminary discussion. Committee Member Eric Bonholtzer was designated to hold the initial discussion. This occurred via a phone call on June 22. Mr Dickey felt based on previous discussions with the HOA, that this too would go nowhere. Though he did state that a previous Board President Helen Revalus had offered $10 millions to purchase the lease. This number was interesting, but no negotiation were forthcoming after that. Convert to Rental Complex Because of the defeat by the membership of an extension proposition in 2018 of the HOA beyond 2041, his company will take possession the property and its assets in 2041. At that time it will be converted into a large Rental Complex for the remaining 15 years of his lease. In any negotiation of this matter, Mr Dickey has no interest in extending his company land lease to the membership. He also suggested that any offer must consider the present worth value of his lease including converting it into a rental complex in 2041 through 2056, and that HOA should obtain an appraisal to evaluate its true value to make an informed offer. Appraisal Funded At the HOA Board Meeting on July 24th, the Board Approved up to $12,500 to fund an appraisal of the land lease. Importance of Yes Vote It cannot be under estimated, the importance of the passing of the Ballot Proposal in the July Election. If this fails, no more negotiation can go forward and property values will deteriorate. As Harbour Vista reduces its life expectancy below 20 years, maintaining the property will become more expensive and motivations for improvements will be gone. Also, according to your sub lease contract with the each member, if the property is not maintained, the Lease holder can ask to take possession of the property early. ■ Editor Notes: A mailing list for the Land Lease Committee has been establsihed where members can ask question. [email protected]

posted 6 March 2021
Land Lease 2021 At the February 25, 2021 HOA Meeting, Vice President Michael Deitrick presented a plan developed by an ad hoc committee for the HOA to purchase the entire Land Lease through 2056. The Board voted to distribute this proposal to the members for comment. The following is what was distributed *From Michael Deitrick* We would like to get each homeowner’s input and support. The biggest first step forward for this plan or any other attempted buyout negotiation with Mr. Dickey must be extending the HOA CC&R’s past 2041 so we can get financing terms longer than 15 years. That will take all 180 homeowner’s participation. I would kindly ask that you reply to my email and let me know of your intent to participate. Obviously knowing whether you will support this plan with a YES vote would help us understand the community’s stance on the Land Lease extension. Please feel free to reach out to me with any questions, concerns, or support. This will only work with us coming together as a community and full transparency. -- Michael Deitrick HVHOA Vice President email: [email protected] The Land Lease Challenge As of the start of this new year, the land lease (sub lease) that is attached to your condo deed will expire in twenty years and the HOA will cease to exist. All of the Harbour Vista property will revert to the land lease holder. This means they may ask you vacate the property or rent it to you at a price to be negotiated. What follows is a proposal for the HOA to buy out the land lease for our membership which will extend to 2056 (or 35 years). The Plan This proposal is to purchase the land lease without increasing dues, adding any special assessment, or increasing the land lease payments. The purchase would be funded by a loan. The payments would come from continuing the current land lease rate but would be paid to the HOA. Currently, members pay $230 monthly sublease, but only $63.20 is paid to the landowner. This leaves $166.80 net. Once the HOA owns the land lease, this net receipt can be used to pay off the loan for the land lease purchase. Since all members already have this expense committed, there will be no increase in dues, any special assessment or land lease increase, just transfer of ownership to the membership. The Steps The land lease owner holds a lease with the landowner (the Duc Family) through 2056. If the HOA was to buy out this land lease from lease holder, it would require the following steps: Our CC&R’s state that the HOA will cease to exist on August 31, 2041. 136 members must vote YES to revise the CC&R’s to extend Harbour Vista HOA past 2041. A buyout price must be negotiated. The funding for a buyout must be obtained via a loan. 136 members out of 180 members must vote YES to approve the buyout. The transfer of the land lease ownership to the HOA must be filed with the courts. Negotiation with each owner for the 2042 to 2056 lease extension. The land lease extension must be filed with each member’s condo deed. Step One: Extend the HOA To extend the HOA beyond August 31, 2041, it will require 136 “YES” votes. There will be legal expenses to revise or CC&R’s, court filing fees and so forth which should be funded from the HOA general operating funds. This approval IS NOT part of the HOA buyout, nor does it commit the HOA for any funds for such a process. It makes it possible for the HOA to exist after 2041 to pursue negotiations beyond 2041. Step Two: Negotiate a Price To extend the HOA beyond August 31, 2041, it will require 136 “YES” votes. There will be legal expenses to revise or CC&R’s, court filing fees and so forth which should be funded from the HOA general operating funds. This approval IS NOT part of the HOA buyout, nor does it commit the HOA for any funds for such a process. It makes it possible for the HOA to exist after 2041 to pursue negotiations beyond 2041. Value of Money Does that mean that this part of the lease is worth $7.6 million dollars? No, it does not! This is because money collected over a period of time versus cash put in an interest account can make more money by the end of the period in 20 years. For example, with a 4% interest rate per year, investing $3.5 million starting now will net 7.6 million by 2041. Hence the value of the 7.6 million in 2041 is only $3.5 million, now. Not to mention that Mr. Dickey is getting a terrible return on his Real Estate business with the remainder of this portion of his lease. If the HOA was to give him $3.5 million dollars, he could make much more money with that in 20 years than he can make with the remainder of this tiny land lease. Missing Expenses Mr. Dickey collects about $360K per year in net income. As of this writing other expenses that he has, have not been disclosed. The last two times that he took ownership of Harbour Vista foreclosed properties that were abandoned, it is estimated to have cost him $50K each in legal, repair and maintenance fees plus back HOA dues. Mr. Dickey pays his own property management company to collect payments and manage the property (Dermont Realty Management Company). The HOA also pays its own Property Management company around $3,500 plus other expenses which is double this amount to do the same thing. We fund collection agencies and foreclosures and all legal fees. This is a duplicate effort, though our Property Management Company does more things with managing maintenance. From 2042 to 2056 The first part of each member’s land sub lease has a deeded contract to 2041 with a payment schedule. But there is no such contract with Mr. Dickey after 2041. A payment schedule after 2041 needs to be negotiated with each member and amended to their deed. Without a schedule, it is very difficult to say what the extension to 2056 lease is worth. For discussion, let us expand the same type of schedule we have now. Increase the member sublease payments by $10 every 5 years. The total amount of money collected by the end of 2056 would be approximately $5.6 million. This is of course funded until 2056 from now (35 years). This will probably add only another million or so to the value, if that much. Only Worth $4.5 Million So, let us be generous by ignoring his other expenses and say the total land lease value is $4.5 million dollars at the present. We can zero out his additional expenses, because the HOA already does that. And this is our negotiating position. Contact a Lending Agency After a price agreement, the HOA negotiates with a Lending agency. They will look at our credit rating which is very good because we are classified as a mini government and we can tax the membership with dues. This the same way the US treasury has its credit evaluated. Second Vote We must have a firm buyout negotiated for the members to vote. The most important thing to know, is the HOA cannot finance a lease buyout unless 136 members vote YES. To look at it another way, forty-six members voting NO or NOT VOTE AT ALL would defeat any buyout. In looking at the membership, we have many seniors and retired people at Harbour Vista and many of them are on fixed income. It would really be a hard sell to persuade them to increase their dues even by 5% or 10% so they could extend the ownership past 2041 even showing them that the property values will go up. Only for those members who want a future investment (younger couples) would this make sense. For those who rent the properties, rents are not affected by the property values. So, these owners are basically neutral in the motivation. So, to get this passed, we must not raise our dues, ask for a special assessment or increase the land lease payment. Second Vote If all these go forward, then each homeowner will have their Deed modified which will require some legal fees which should be funded from the HOA general fund. Your sub lease will now be paid to the HOA. The HOA will be responsible to paying the land lease and its new loan. The first of the year is a good time to start this. But this idea depends on Mr. Dickey agreeing. Also, it is yet undefined as to the amount of financing that will be required by the HOA from its general fund to pursue this buyout. ■ Notes: The Harbour Vista News has a table posted at LandLeaseProposal_one.html. You mut register with the Newsletter to access this link, A Land Lease Buyout Committee needs to be created. Maybe you have some skills that would be useful for this endeavor.

posted 23 February 2021
February 2021 Safety Meeting Summary Maps and Signs Safety Newsletter The Safety Committee held a Zoom meeting on February 4th at 6:30PM. Michael Barto and Michael Deitrick acted as temporary co-chairs for the meeting. Maps and Signs To alleviate the issue with delivery services, the Committee discussed the best location to place maps around Harbour Vista and what size they should be. A suggestion as to place signs at the each gate phone Kiosk directing the delivery services to inside mailboxes to view a map of the complex. It was suggested that individual key maps be placed in the Hallways. At the last HOA Meeting, Matt Bosma was asked to provide a sign maker name to obtain quotes. As of this meeting, no information has been provided from Powerstone. Revised Safety Committee Charter A revised Committee Charter was approved by those attending. The revised charter changes the name of the Committee from Public Safety to just Safety Committee. The Committee scope was expanded to include safety issues that might affect individual home owners. The restriction that prevents off-site owner as members of the Committee was removed. Safety Newsletter Safety Committee Member and Graphic Artist Keith Levin provided his latest update to the proposed “New Years Safety Committee Newsletter” which would be placed on every resident door. This new Safety Newsletter is based on a contributed article about Condo etiquette from an HOA owner. Michael Barto wanted to add some information about the HOA Rules and Regulation, and Architectural Guidelines about excess noise and some other issues. Michael Deitrick felt that anythings about Rules and Regulation should be left with the Rules and Regulations Committee. The group decided to summarize Rules information in the Safety Newsletter and HOA Vice President Michael Detrick will provide his final approval before it is printed and distributed. Several members of the Committee volunteered to the Newsletter and Michael Barto volunteered to print the Newsletter. Other Issues It was brought to the attention of the Committee that there are children playing at Harbour Vista with skateboards on the sidewalks which is prohibited. Some kids shooting air guns and leave the foam bullets to be picked up by someone else. ■

posted 21 December 2020
December 2020 Safety Meeting Summary Fireplace Appliance Low Voltage Lights The Safety Committee held a Zoom Meeting on Thursday December 17th, 2020. Five residents attended. HOA Vice President Michael Deitrick and Architectural Chairman Michael Barto acted are acting as co-chairperson, til a permanent chairman is appointed. Cabana Exit Gate Meeting opened with an update on the Cabana exit gate stuck open. A computer board is on order with no definite timeline. Entrance gate will be opened to prevent persons entering the exit side. Low Voltage Light System Michael Barto provided a discussion of a proposed low voltage light system replacing current solar lights that were placed as a pilot around the community in low light areas. Quote will be turned into Powerstone to be placed into the January 2021 HOA Board packet for discussion. Will reach out to the community for input on areas needing more lighting. Revise the Charter It was agree the the Safety Committee charter needs to be revised. Michael Barto will develop a revision and sent out to all Safety Committee members for their input before it is finalized after which it will be to submitted to the Board for approval. Burning Wood in Fireplace A member pointed out that she has been smelling wood in the air around her condo. This is cause by new owners or renter who do no understand that the fireplaces in the condos are not wood burning. The Committee decided to create a Safety Committee flyer regarding burning wood in our gas fireplaces and the hazard it creates on every resident's door. Need Chairman The group discussed the different possibilities for a new Safety Committee Chairperson, but a candidate was not identified. ■ Editor Note: The Safety Committee is a very important Committee to Harbour Vista. Not having an official Chairperson in causing a handicap to its effectiveness. Though the person attending are very active participants. The responsibilities of the Chairperson does not require that much work as the membership is very active. The Chairperson is only responsibe to setup the meetings, create an agenda and provide a meeting summary to the Board.

posted 7 June 2020
May 2020 Safety Meeting Summary Mold Infestation Pool Closure Vicious Dog The Safety Committee held a Zoom Meeting on Thursday May 21st. Nine residents attented. The Safety Commitee Chairman Cynthia Lee was indisposed for the meeting, so Architectural Chairman Michael Barto acted on her behalf), Mole It was explained that a mold infestation in a bottom floor unit had occurred and required about $10,000 in restoration and repair expenses to the owner. This seems to have been caused by leaky turn off valves. This unit had not been visited for more than four months. The unit was foreclosed in December by the land lease owner who took possession. Take Care of Your Property A couple of issues which the Safety Committee wants members and residents to be concerned: If your unit is going to be unoccupied for a period of time (even a short period of time), consider turning off all the water valves in the unit. Ask a neighbor or a relative to check the unit from time to time while you are away. Provide some alternate method for emergency access authority - a neighbor or a relative. Ball valves shutoff are the most reliable to turn off your water. Harbour Vista was built with plastic turn valves in 1980. Most of these have been replaced with metal turn valves. But these type of valves are also unreliable. If the owner has an opportunity, consider replacing turn valves with ball turn off valves. Pool Closure Currently until the State of California says it is OK to open our pools for gatherings, the pools and jacuzzi’s will remain closed. No one participated in this discussion. Vicious Dog Attack There is an issue with a recent vicious dog attack where the animal escaped from the owner and attacked another dog. Many people at the Safety Committee meeting chimed in on this issue. It was the main reason they came. These people who live around where this dog lives, feel unsafe in the community because of this animal. One of the attendees from her phone share with the committtee the noise of constant barking coming from this dog during the meeting. Blackbeard Barriers The Safety Committee has requested that a barrier along the sidewalk of the 16512 Blackbeard building be installed. Mud is landing on the sidewalk, creating a slip and fall hazard. It appears that this is on the HOA agenda for it’s meeting on the following Thursday which was approved. Comment and Other Things Safety Committee members Brenda Richardson and Michael Barto have been installing some Solar night Lights at Cabana Mail Box and by the main pond on at Grunion. These are being evaluated. Michael Barto stated that he has two more pet stations that could be deployed. He just does not know where they should go. ■

posted 17 May 2019
April 2019 Neighborhood Watch NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH by Cynthia Lee The Safety Committee held a Neighborhood Watch meeting with the Huntington Beach Police Department on Tuesday April 30th. Here are some highlights: A Nice Place to Live The policeman at the meeting said that Harbour Vista is a fairly quiet community. The Police Department does not receive very many calls from this community. Police Department Staffing The officer told use that there are approximately 10 officers per shift for the entire city of Huntington Beach, which covers 30 square miles. During the summer months, 8 of those officers will be on beach patrol since there's a lot that goes on during the summer months. People from other cities come to our beach and cause problems. This means we'll have 2 officers per shift to cover the rest of the city. Please be patient. The officers will respond, but it might take a little longer. When to Call 9-1-1 Everyone should know when to call 9-1-1, as opposed to calling HPBD’s main number (714-960-8843). Examples: Call 911, if your life or someone else's life is in jeopardy; Call 911, if you see a crime in progress such as a house being broken into or you're a witness to a crime; Call 911. if you see someone with a gun, etc. Provide Full Information When calling either 911 or the non-emergency numbers, provide as much description as much as possible to the dispatcher. Examples: male white, with dark brown hair and a beard wearing a dark blue shirt, black shorts and Van's tennis; approximately 6’0 Car Break-ins There's a on-going problem with car break-ins. Please do not leave any valuables such as wallets, keys, laptops in your car. People often times leave spare change in cup holders and have had their windows smashed just so the thief can grab their change. Homeless Issues The homeless problem is mostly in Downtown Huntington, but there is quite a few homeless that hang-out on Warner and PCH. ■

posted 24 February 2019
January 2019 Architectural/Parking Committee Meeting Summary Pet Fence Approved Parking Rules Out of Date The Architectural Committee meeting was held January 24th 2019 at 6:30n in the Cabana Clubhouse. In attendance were Michael Barto (owner-and acting chair), Brenda Richardson (owner-and member) and Mike Borzi (owner-and acting member). One renter attended the meeting Panel Truck Presumed Parking Violation Brenda Richardson (Board member) presented that she wanted a panel truck to be prohibited from parking on the premises which is now parting in the resident's assigned parking space. Her reasoning is this vehicle is a a commercial vehicle. What exactly was met by commercial vehicle was somewhat unclear. But according to the Rules and Regulations where the word "commercial" is used, there is no rule or regulation preventing "commercial vehicles from parking on the premise. To support her case, Brenda stated that several members have complained about this vehicle as inappropriate to park at Harbour Vista. Send to the Board After much talking back and forth about Rule and Regulation and what a commercial vehicle means. it was decided to suggest that the Board pursue a hearing with the owner to asked if this vehicle is used for commercial purposes. Though it is unclear as to what ground they might use to request such a hearing, The Board can then decide, if such a rule exit or this falls under a nuisance clause which can be used to prohibit this vehicle from parking on the property. Outdated Regulation It was also pointed out the parking rule for vehicles is really very out of date. For example under has typos and refers to prohibiting vehicles over 3/4 ton. Many of the vehicles that are allowed to be parked at Harbour Vista exceed this tonnage. Pet Fence Variance The member is asking for variance to the Rules and Regulations for his tenant that prohibiting attaching a pet fence to the balcony. There we no objection to approving this variance. This fence has existed for 4 years with no complaints. It serves a safety function to protect the resident's cats. The surrounding unit owner's had no complaint. Therefore, the variance was approved. The owner also agree to removing the fence and returning the balcony to its original condition as his expense when it is no longer necessary (e.g. the tenant leaves). Architectural Guidelines The Architectural Guidelines need to be revised. Satellite dish installation inside the atriums of the 2/3 Bed Buildings should be allow. This is being done anyway, but is in violation of the Rules and Regulations. We need to support the Satellite vendor recommendation for function installation of a satellite dish within the Architecture Guidelines restriction. It was suggested that we add requirements that the owner is responsible for removing the satellite dish and making any repairs to the building when the dish is removed. It was suggested that owner be required to make a deposit when installing a satellite dish (e.g. $50),which will be returned when the disk is removed (we are in the thinking process with this). In wall space heater requirements need to be added. In-Wall speaker restrictions need to be added. Revision of shade recommendations. In planning stage Pet safety fence Old Business Development of Emergency Water Shutoff team and procedures Volunteers needs to be established with there contact information published. These volunteers would be trained in how to shutoff the water in an emergency including shutting off the boilers. They would be provided with training, keys to the boilers and access to a water key switch. Procedures need to developed and published and an emergency list posted. Vendor input would be required to develop the procedure. Home Owner's Packet A proposed packet will be present to the Board (new owner's guide), with an addition of the ceiling heater water shut off procedures to be mail to each homeowner. The proposed content would be: New Homeowner's Guide (example) In ceiling heater water shut off procedure CC&R's ByLaws Rules and Regulations Architectural Guidelines Other? Need input. Request to change the pool key lock was killed. Community garage inspection was killed Reallocation of visitor parking space was killed. ■ Editor: Recently President Mary Williams and Michael Barto came to a mutual agreement to step down from the Architectural Committee. The Board will assume this responsibility tile a new committee can be formed.

posted 1 January 2019
December 2018 Architectural Committee Meeting Summary New Pool Gate Keys? Garage Inspections? Visitor Parking Reassignments? The Architectural Committee held a meeting Tuesday December 18th. Three members attended along with President Teri Piper-Piper-Johnson (the Chairman) and Member-at-Large Brenda Richardson. Homeowner's Packet Michael Barto volunteered a single page guidance documents that he had created to the Board for edit and review to be added to the homeowner packed that will be sent out to members. Also provide to the Board for the packet were emergency contact information that he had created and instructions as to how to turn of the hydronic heaters if they start leaking. Boiler Safety It was suggested that multiple individual contact information for emergencies be posted at the boiler with prevalent information that "no unauthorized person is allowed to shutoff the boilers". New Pool Key/Lock and Garage Inspections The following suggestions will be made from the committee for the boards review as how to proceed with two serious problems at Harbour Vista: Condo residents parking 1-3 cars in visitor parking and not using their garages Our pools being frequently visited by non residents who have been given keys from prior residents. For example a dozen or more teenager having a party or the bartender from down the street who didn't wear the bottom of her swim suit around kids. It was suggested by the Architectural chairman to implement Garage Inspections. This proposal will be discussed at the December 29th Open Session Meetings. The Board will first discuss among themselves what they want to do and then members during the meeting can express their opinions. Garage Inspections A schedule will be create to give notice of dates of inspections of certain blocks of garages on both sides of Harbour Vista. These inspections will include: Termite and dry rot inspections The board will need to decide on who needs these services. This information would be used to set up outside bids to get performed for pests/dry rot removal in blocks of garages, versus doing one garage at a time. Typically these services are paid by the HOA for garages as they common area exclusive use areas. Safety Inspections This would be performed to identify potential fire hazards, living spaces, man caves, installation of large appliances or business use in a garage Identify if a garage is only used for storage and not for parking of a vehicle. Updating residents vehicle info. How many cars, license plate numbers/per condo/garage> Delivery of one (1) new pool key at no charge. Additional keys may be purchased. Only one (1) new pool key for the new lock will be provided to the owner because the HOA want to keep track of how many keys each unit will have from now on. The cost off an additional keys will be $12.50 at the time of inspection. After the inspections the cost for lost keys will be $25. Visitor Parking Spaces Reassignment As to be discussed in the December 27th HOA meeting, the Architectural Committee will send the following proposals to the Board as a follow on to the garage inspections. All owners whose garages are not used to park a vehicle will be put on a list This list will be used for a lottery to select an owner for assigned special parking if they so desire. This special parking will have a cost (yearly or monthly) till notice is given and they are now parking their vehicle in the garage. Inspection will be needed. Cost of what the special parking will be decided by board and discussed at an open meeting with the members. All parking changes will be reviewed by HOA lawyer to confirm what is legal with converting "visitor parking" spaces to assigned rented parking. But FIRST, the HOA will check with the City of HB planning department to see how we can meet the challenge to deal with this issue of multiple vehicles/condo parking in visitor parking. ■

posted 19 November 2018
November 2018 Safety Committee Summary Evacuation Maps Fire Alarm System Building Monitors The HOA Safety Committee held its first meeting for this term on Saturday November 17. Four members/residents where present including the new Chair/Spokesperson Helen Revalus (former HOA President). Building Monitors Though there were some success in last term’s Safety Committee for establishing building monitors, the committee decided that this subject needs to be revisited to obtain more volunteers. The Building monitor’s associated resident list needs to be created. This includes residents with pets and disabled residents who need special assistance during an emergency. Fire Alarm System Helen Revalus talked about how the fire alarm system work including their automated fire sensing system. Each hallway floor has a fire alarm with a fire extinguisher behind glass and also outside perimeters. The entrances to the 3 bedroom units have a single alarm and the fire sensor systems. A point was made that members should be warned that if they break the glass to use the fire extinguishers , they may injure their feet if they are not wearing shoes. It was suggested that this information be included in the next HOA Newsletter. Emergency Evacuation It was discussed that congregating around a building or on internal roadways during an emergency may hamper the arrival of emergency vehicle and responders. Harbour Vista has some grass areas at its perimeters that are more appropriate for this purpose. Maps and Posting The Safety Committee has tasked itself to develop evacuation maps for each building for just such an occurrence along with other information. ■

posted 11 April 2018
ANNOUNCEMEMT The Harbour Vista HOA ARCHITECTURAL/PARKING COMMITTEE Will hold a Meeting on Monday April 15 AT 6:30 PM LOCATION: Cabana Clubhouse Agenda: Approval of Architecrtural Request (16542 Blackbeard #302) Parkingh Issues and Policies Finalization of Architectural Guidelines. Patio/Balcony Shades Satelitte Dishes Other sound proofing restrictions (e.g. no speakers in ceilings except for top floor units). In-Wall space heaters. Request to remove items from Rules and Regulations. General Discussion Any HOA Member is Invited to attend and participate. Additional any residents are Invited to attend. For further information, contact Acting Spokesperson: Michael Barto Email: [email protected] Cell and Text: 714-883-1949

posted 18 November 2018
November 2018 Architectural/Parking Commitee Maintain Aesthetic Appearance Parking Space Reorganization Architectural/Parking Committee Meeting was November 14th and was an open meeting to members of the HOA. Only three members attended: The HOA Board President Terri Piper-Johnson, Michael Barto and HOA Board Member at Large Brenda Richardson. Issues Discussed It was suggestion a new rule be added to the “Rules and Regulations”members are required to maintain the aesthetic appearance of the outside of the condo for items their responsible such as Satellite dishes, Doors and Windows. Cabling for satellite antennas is a real problem as many of them are attached improperly to the buildings with the cables run haphazardly, piecing the stucco walls without any proper sealing. It was suggested that Powerstone be requested to create a new homeowner packet which will include a copy of the governing documents (e.g. Rules and Regulations, CC&R’s, Architectural Guidelines, information about Powerstone services and request forms. It was suggested that a one page summary be provide with this document highlighting issues that most new homeowner experience when they first take possession of their unit. The HOA will be changing the gate locks to the Pool/Spa’s. Each property owner will be provided one free key. Distribution of these keys will be tied to a garage inspection. When the inspection is complete, the property owner will receive their new key. The garage inspection will be a safety inspection and as a general termite inspection. The HOA is responsible for maintaining the ”common area exclusive use” Garage. The HOA also want to audit the Garages to see how many homeowners can actually use them for parking for a future parking space reorganization. The HOA is developing a plan for parking space reorganization. This is intended to curtail the issue of using visitor parking for vehicles that are not parked in the Garages and the 3rd and 4th cars some people have. It was confirmed vehicles violating HOA rules can only be towed by the HOA from the unassigned spots (e.g. Visitor space). Vehicles park in assigned spaces, require that the owner be request to appear before a hearing, prior to any action. ■

posted 22 September 2017
Budget Committee Meeting Highlights September 2017 BUDGET COMMITTEE HIGHLIGHTS Proposed 19% Increase The HOA Budget Committee held its first meeting on September 20th. The spokesperson Helen Revalus stated that this was the first time such a committee meeting has been held in public. Six members attended plus two renter. Information Transfer This committee consists of only the Board members. This was not a working session but an information transfer. Candice Shultz provided a “Reserve Accounts” presentation. Announcements were made and audience questions were taken. Proposed Budget This new Board proposed a preliminary Budget to raise members’ assessments by approximately 19%. This is a proposal but “something” should be voted on at the next HOA meeting on September 24 to meet Civic Code requirements. Questionable Reserve Study Candice Shultz stated that the Reserver Study used as one of the criteria to develop this budget, may be bogus. Case and point, the Reserve Study was not performed on-site and it stated that Harbor Vista has eleven elevators. Harbor Vista only has nine elevators. Other Points Some of our HOA vendors have announced rate increases starting next year. The Board is working with Action to obtain more information about our financial accounting. Executive Session Meeting The Board met with Action’s COO, our property manager and her supervisor on September 11 to discuss the HOA finances. The Board intends to provide some details this meeting at the next HOA open session on September 24th.■ Notes: If any member want to see a copy of this preliminary budget, simply send the Newsletter an email and I will provide you an electronic copy. You must provide information to validate that you are a property owner such as your property address. HOA Committees can be held in closed session, but because there are more than two Board members are participating on this committee, this meeting falls under the Davis-Stirling Open Meeting Act. Assessments percent amounts vary because because they are calculated by square footage and by type of unit. One bedrooms pay more per square footage than three bedrooms.

posted 18 September 2017
(updated 21 September 2017)
Committees Meeting Highlights New Committees New Spokepersons Four organizational committee meetings were recently held back to back. When the new Board took over the HOA, the old committees were dissolve except for the Parking Committee. The new Board decided to reorganized all the Committees and establish three new one. Committees reorganized were: Architectural Committee Landscaping Committee Three new Committees were established: Rules and Regulations Public Safety and Budget Budget Committee Reorganization meetings were held from September 8th to the September 13. This Article discribes highlights of these meetings. The new Budget Committee will hold its organizational meeting on Wednesday September 20th. Independent The President Helen Revalus stated at the August HOA Meeting that the committees will work independently of the Board providing inputs and recommendations. Landscaping Committee The Landscaping Committee organizational meeting was held September 8. The committee was subdivided into two subcommittee: Board members Candice Shultz assumed the role of spokesperson for the Phase I committee (Blackbeard, Cabana and Lago Buildings) and Board member Teri Piper-Johnson assumed the role of spokesperson for the Grunion committee (Grunion Buildings). Eight members were in attendance for the meeting. The function of these committees is to make recommendation, monitor the landscaping vendor and perform "walk-thru’s" of the properties. Candice Shultz discussed how she and her helpers has been planting flowers, foliage and mulch. She funds this effort with donations from the residents and property owners. Typical donations are about $10. If anyone would like to contribute, they may contact her by email at [email protected]. Rules and Regulations This new committee makes recommendation for updates. revision and maintenance of the rules and regulation. Its organizational meeting was held on Monday September 11. Board member Helen Revalus assumed the role of spokesperson for this new committee. Board member Mary Williams along with one homeowner became members. At the previous Board Meeting held in June, new “Rules and Regulations” were adopted, but submitted comments by members were not integrated. Spokesperson Helen Revalus used this meeting to incorporate the comments for an update to the “Rules and Regulations”. Highlights of items added or modified were: Use of common areas will eliminate the restriction where residents and pets are not allowed“within one foot from the waterways”. This restriction was impractical. The rule will be relaxed allowing residents to hang items on their doors such as wreaths and holiday decoration. The committee discussed removing the restriction for parking of commercial vehicles and vehicles with advertising on the property. Spokesperson Helen Revalus proposed an update to allow the vehicles to be parked in the owner’s assigned parking space, but parking of such vehicles is still prohibited in visitor spaces. The rules for installing Satellite disks are being rewritten to support technical issues with their placement. Safety Committee This new committee will concentrate on safety issues, awareness and earthquake/disaster preparations. Four members were in attendance along with three Board members. Board Terri Piper-Johnson assumed the role of spokesperson along with Board Member Mike Peduzzi as co chair. President Helen Revalus was in attendance as an observer and did not participate in the meeting See “Exception to the Open Meeting Act”. Terri provided a preliminary charter with goals to develop a safety knowledge base, provide community education and improve safety. The new committee created some action items as follows: Establish one resident in each building as a point of contact for safety issue. These individuals will have keys and training to turn off electricity in an emergency or open the power panels for vendors. An action item was taken by a member to locate and identify these residents. Because of speeding vehicles and small children, an Action item was taken to install signs and issue flyers to make residents more aware. An action item was taken to have interested committee members training by a qualified HOA plumber in the procedures for boiler and water shutoff in case of an emergency. Architectural Committee The Architectural Committee was held but was immediately cancelled because of no attendance. This was contributed to the invitation for volunteers on at the Bulletin Boards not being clear to everyone. The abbreviation ARC used in the posting may not have been understood to mean Architectural Committee. For the time being, the Board will assume responsibilities for the Architectural Committee for the next month until a new Architectural can be formed. ■ Editor Notes: The Architectural Committee is the most important Committee in the HOA. It needs to be supported. Previous Board pursued a policies where Board members were the Architectural Committee. This isolated the Board from the membership and allowed them to pursued unnecessary legal action which wasted HOA funds. I cannot make it clearer to those reading this article to support and participate in this committee. I was informed at the Budget Committee on September 20th that Mike Peduzzi will now be the only spokesperson for the Safety Committee.

posted 4 Ocotber 2018
Meet and Greet MORNING COFFEE and DONUTS The HOA is hosting a morning "Coffee and Donuts Get-Together" for residents and homeowners on Saturday October 20th. Starting at 10AM, this "meet and greet" will be an informal setting to meet your Board. Want to Participate?? This "meet and greet" is intended to provide information and an opportunity to volunteer for one of HOA committees. Becoming a member of an HOA committee allows a person to become more involved with the community, meet their neighbors, improves knowledge and provides a voice to influence decisions. Committees are open to both on-site and off-site owner. Renter may also volunteer for a committee except the Architectural Committee. Committees Landscaping Committee This Committee will provide recommendation to the landscaping services. Public Safety This committee is new and will concentrate on safety issues, awareness and emergency preparedness. Architectural Committee This committee with also include the Parking Committee and will be limited to HOA members only. This committee reviews and brings to the board approved architectural and remodeling requests for their review and approval. Their committee provides inspections and makes recommendation for updates and additions to the Architectural Guidelines.

update 13 September 2017 (originally posted 2 September 2017)

Committee Members Requests

Schedules of Committees

At the HOA Meeting on August 28th, the new Board announced the formation of three new committee and the reorganization of two others. The HOA has scheduled organizational or reorganization and the first meetings of these committees as follows:

Committee	Date	Time	Location
~~Landscaping~~	~~Fri 9/8~~	~~12:30pm~~	~~Cabana Clubhouse~~
~~Rules and Regulations~~	~~Mon 9/11~~	~~6:30pm~~	~~Cabana Clubhouse~~
~~Public Safety~~	~~Tue 9/12~~	~~6:30pm~~	~~Cabana Clubhouse~~
~~Architectural~~	~~Wed 9/13~~	~~6:30pm~~	~~Cabana Clubhouse~~
Budget	Wed 9/20	6:30pm	Cabana Clubhouse

All of these meetings will be held in open session in the Cabana Clubhouse. All committees except for the Architectural Committee are open to any HOA member or resident of Harbor including renters. The Architectural Committee is restricted to HOA members only.

You Should Participate!!

Harbour Vista News encourages all interested parties to support these committees by participating or just attending. Committee membership improves knowledge of the community and most important provides a voice to influence how the HOA is run.

Committees and Issues

Landscaping Committee (reorganization)
This Committee will provide recommendation to the landscaping services. At the August meeting, the Board announced plans to split this committee into two separate subcommittees. One for Phase I (Blackbeard, Cabana and Lago Buildings) and the other for Phase II (Grunion Buildings).
Rules and Regulations (new committee)
This committee will provide recommendation for updates. revision and creation of rules and regulation. A couple of items on the table are updates to a shade restrictions and satellite disk regulations.
Public Safety (new committee)
This committee is a new will concentrate on safety issues, awareness and earthquake preparation.
Architectural Committee (reorganized)
This committee will limit its membership to HOA members only. This committee reviews and approves architectural and remodeling requests, provide inspection and makes recommendation for update and additions to the Architectural Guidelines.
Budget Committee (new committee)
This importance of this committee, whose membership can include renters, is responsible for creating a comprehensive budget for following year (2018). This committee will be concern with financial issues and recommendation for raising or reduction of dues and special assessment.

Information provided in tnis article is subject to change without notice.

Email [email protected] for current information.

Update1 (09/13/17): The Architectural Committee was held but was immediately cancelled because of no attendance. This was contributed to the invitation for volunteers on the Bulletin Boards not being clear to everyone. The abbreviation ARC used in the posting may not have been understood to mean Architectural Committee. For the time being, the Board will assume responsibilities for the Architectural Committee function for the next month until a new Architectural can be formed.

posted 16 July 2017
Architectural Committees Meeting Highlights THREE ACTIONS APPROVED Personal Video/Audio Surveillance System Guidelines Updates The Architecture Committee (ARC) held an open meeting on June 29th in the Cabana Clubhouse. Five Committee members were present: Michael Barto, Terri Piper Johnson Ray Koagel and Brenda Richardson. Two HOA member Helen Ruvelas and Candice Shultz also was in attendance. Three Actions Requests Approved The ARC approved: Front door replacement A Split Air Conditioning System Transfer of Attic Space (Exclusive Use Common Area) to homeowner for remodeling and upgrade as storage space. Addition to Amendments to Guideline The following items were discussed in the ARC meeting as amendments to the Architectural Guideline: Approval from the Architectural Committee is required for any installation of in-wall electric space heaters. City permits must be obtained and inspection. These in-wall space heaters must only be installed facing interior walls which are not classified as “party walls" (e.g. walls share between units). Using exterior walls which face outside is acceptable. Approval from the Architectural Committee is required for any installation of security video cameras attached to the an exterior wall or located in the unit and pointing to the outside through a window. Approval from the Architectural Committee is required for any installation of a Video doorbell/intercom system. Approval from the Architectural Committee is required for replacement of front doors The panel door must resemble the same type of material, finish and color as the original installed doors (e.g. dark walnut). The door must be installed in the same location and be the same size as the original door it replaces. The material of the panel door may be wood, fiberglass or metal as long as the finish reassembles the original door. The panel door must consist of at least a single panel and not more than six. Z-style barn and shaker doors are not allowed. Installation of half moon radius transom designed window at the top of the panel door are allowed with approval of the Architectural Committee. These guideliens were only a preliminary discussion. Members are invited to express their opinion to the ARC or the HOA■

posted 16 December 2016

Architectural Committees Meeting Highlights

White Windows/Balcony Doors Approved
Future Architectural Guidelines

The Architecture Committee held an open meeting on December 7th in the Cabana Clubhouse. Three Committee members were present: Michael Barto, Terri Piper Johnson and Brenda Richardson. One HOA member Aimee Rosendahl also was in attendance.

White Vinyl Retrofit Approval

The Committee vote unanimously to approve two architectural requests for the installation of white vinyl retrofit windows and balcony doors in two units in the 16521 Grunion building.

Future Architectural Guidelines

The remainder of the meeting was an exploratory discussion of additions or updates to the Architectural Guidelines for its revision. The current Guidelines were finally approved and sent to Action Property Management legal counsel at the November Board Meeting. The guidelines will probably be approved at the December HOA meeting.This discussion does not affect those approved rules. But Davis-Sterling Act requires review of the architectural guidelines once a year. This discussion was to fulfill this future requirement for Board aproval and to be forwarded to Legal Counsel for review..

No Speakers in Ceilings

At recent open house of a unit for sell revealed that the homeowner had installed speakers in the ceiling of a bottom floor unit. Though this may be allowable for top floor units where there is no-one above you, it was suggested at the meeting that a prohibition on such installation be added to the future guidelines. Also any type of in-wall speaker system install in any internal shared wall between units should be prohibited. Any outside wall or non-shared internal wall speakers installation should be reviewed by the Architectural Committee.

Awning Standard

The Committee discussed some preliminary standards for Awnings such as color and type. The idea for bottom, middle and top floors need to be defined.

Shades

A review of the current shade restrictions need to be more clearly defined and revised. Right now, the HOA only allows free standing shades and prohibits any attachment to the balcony. If awnings are going to be acceptable that attach to the balconies, then attachment standard need to be defined as well as type and color.

Balcony Responsible Change

Aimee Rosendahl brought to the attention of the Committee the new David-Stirling law going into effect at the beginning of the year (AB963) will basically, turned the responsibility of maintaining exclusive use common areas over to the homeowner. In Harbour Vista case this will be the balconies. Repair of units balconies at Harbor Vista are has always been funded by the HOA. But many homeowners might prefer to repair their balconies at their expense using more durable materials. This has already been done by some homeowners. Terri Piper Johnson expressed that if we turn the responsibility of the balcony maintenance over to the homeowners that HOA must make sure that they are turned over in good condition.

Front Doors

Front doors are all over the place at Harbour Vista. The HOA even installed its own non-compliant door a couple of years ago from police action. It was pointed out for the 3 bedroom units, front doors cannot be seem from the outside. Two bedroom units have their doors covered by elevator shares or stairwell. A one bedroom from front door is hidden in a hallways. Many doors are covered by screen and cannot be seen anyway.

Utility Doors

Guidelines for utility doors for the balcony storage closet is not constantly defined or enforced. Several members have received complaints about their utility doors on balconies from the HOA because of color or not the property flat door. But these non-compliant doors were there when the homeowner purchase the unit and have existed for years. There are also many variations of beige.

No Conclusions

No conclusions were reached at the meeting. The Architectural Committee only wanted to develop ideas for future guidelines. All HOA members are welcome to provide input or ideas. The spokesperson email is [email protected]. You can also text or call him on his cell phone at 714-883-1949.

Request for New Member

Because Aimee Rosendahl has been so instrumental in the development of the “shortly-to-be-released” HOA architectural guidelines and has significant construction knowledge and experiences, the spokesperson Michael Barto wants to recommend that she be appointed to the Architectural Committee. Michael said he would propose this at the next HOA meeting in December .■

posted 22 July 2016
Architectural/Parking/Board Committees Highlights Awning Pilot Broken Door Frame Beige Windows Removed Parking Again? A combined architectural and parking committees meeting was held on July 6th in "emergency executive session" with the HOA Board. All Board members were present plus the committee members. Only items that did not fall under confidential information are disclosed in this article. The Board told the committee that they were being split into two committees with adoption of the new charters. Awning Pilot A pilot was approved to allow a homeowner to install awning shades on their balcony. The recommended color will be beige since it would be the lease obtrusive to the architecture of the building. The homeowner accepted all costs associated for the installation and its removal, if necessary. The Board will vote to suspend the rules for this pilot. Broken Door Frame The Board informed the architectural committee that it was unnecessary to submit an architectural request form for replacement of a broken door frame. The HOA would pay for the purchase of a new door frame and pay for all labor cost associated with the installation of the frame and door. The cost of the door is the members responsibility. A shared expense agreement may need to be made with this homeowner whohas the broken door. Architectural Guidelines Change Even though the architecture committee had agreed on beige and white vinyl retrofit windows for the architectural guidelines, the Board removed beige. The guidelines will take affect when they are mail to the members and will not be retroactive. Michael Barto informed the Board that the Aime Rosendahl (the recent litigation defendant) had contributed about 80% to the writing of the "architectural guidelines" that he had submitted. Architectural Committee Charter Michael Barto expressed concern that the new architectural committee charter that Mary Williams wrote did not mention what the architectural committee was responsible for approving inside a un He had requested a revision to the old charter to avoid entrapment issues since the inside approval requirements are blurry in the poorly readable CC&R’s document with obtuse language. He was asked to submit his suggestions to the Board. Architectural Guidelines Michael Barto expressed concern that the new architectural committee charter that Mary Williams wrote did not mention what the architectural committee was responsible for approving inside a unit. He had requested a revision to the old charter to avoid entrapment issues since the inside approval requirements are blurry in the poorly readable CC&R’s document from 1980 with obtuse language. He was asked to submit his suggestions to the Board. Parking Committee The parking committee and the Board had complex discussion for new parking rules and enforcement procedures which were adopted (we think).■

posted 19 May 2016
Architectural Committee Highlights TWO REQUEST GRANTED Additional Parking Spaces Table Guidelines Review The March HOA monthly meeting was held in the Cabana Clubhouse with three Board Members present: Michael Mengel, Cynthia Lee, and Mary Williams. Peggy Shaw from Action Property Management and ten residents/property owners were also in attendance. Statement The Spokesperson Michael Barto stated that the Architectural Committee was not there to disapprove anything, they just wanted to make sure that projects were done correctly and within the Harbour Vista’s Architectural Guidelines, our Rules and Regulations and the CC&R’s. Pilot A/C Installation Approved The Committee approved the installation of a ductless, split air conditioning system for a top floor three bedroom condo as a pilot. Currently the HOA Rules and Regulations (Section V-4) prohibit any type of external air conditioning system. The Committee will asked the HOA to suspend the rules for this single installation. Electrical and line set will be installed in the attic with new electrical outlets. An outdoor unit will be installed on the second bedroom balcony with a drain to the ground. An interior unit will be installed on an inside wall. The homeowner satisfied the Architecture Committee’s concern about noisy, power, structural and Architecture aesthetics. The Committee will monitor and evaluate this installation as the project goes forward. This is not an approval for all air conditioners, but a step in the right direction for future approvals. Applications will be required by anyone else until this is changed in our rules and regulations. Retrofit Vinyl Windows Approved Installation of a single hung vinyl retrofit window to replace the exiting one was approved for an upper three bedroom unit. The Architectural Committee does not want the homeowner to select a color or style window that would be in conflict with the Building’s architecture. The homeowner below this member already has installed vinyl retrofit windows which was approved by a prior Architecture Committee. The homeowner wishes to match this same installation." Parking Committee In reviewing creation of additional unassigned parking spaces, the Spokesperson for the Parking Committee Ray Koagel felt that there would be little to gain in asking the Fire Department and City to approve of a few more spaces. It might even open up issues with existing parking spaces. He stated that he wanted the issue to be tabled indefinitely. This was approved by the Architecture Committee. Architectural Guidelines Because of California State Law, an HOA cannot specify a vendor or a product to a homeowner. Therefore, selection of the vendor for retrofit vinyl windows, screen doors, or shades cannot be specified and will not be part of the Guidelines. It was adopted that the proposed Architectural Guidelines will include only white and almond color retrofit vinyl windows. The grand father clause will be in place for any owner who may have installed another color prior to the Guidelines adoption. It was adopted that shades can be attached to the outside of the building as long as they are attached behind the balcony/patio headers. This will require a change to the “../Rules and Regulations”. It should be emphasized, that members wishing to install shades on their balcony/patio, need to submit an Architectural Request form. An Air Conditioning Section was added to the Guidelines. Review of Units Because some of the condos at Harbour Vista are sold to be flipped, it is well known that this type owner does not obtain City permits and is unaware or ignores the Harbour Vista Architecture Guidelines. It was suggested that when a condo is up for sale that the HOA perform an inspection and if discrepancies are found, that the seller and/or buyer be notified to make corrections prior to the sale. Member Terri Piper-Johnson pointed out that this was policy at another condo where she had lived. Mike Mengel, the President of the HAO, felt that the Board was unqualified to evaluate these discrepancies. The City or a third party inspector could assist in making sure any changes are up to code and most importantly safe. Nothing was decided at this time.■

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